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Are you a Caveman?

Posted by qtns2di4 on 2012-August-09 21:05:27 EDT, Thursday
In reply to Re: No thanks... posted by lee lette on 2012-August-09 11:12:58 EDT, Thursday
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if you can say this is not somehow a fault in development rather than just a natural process then I'm willing to listen.

This is nonsense. Nothing is "natural" if that's to be taken to mean "normative" (vis-à-vis whatever is "unnatural") and trying to socially make some pattern normative, no matter the good intentions, always ends in genocide.




But it's always interesting to listen to this argument, because if anything had any chance to be normative because natural, then surely it wouldn't be whatever happens in a world where most people live settled down in medium size to big cities, where they interact with hundreds other people, most of them unknown, nearly all of them unrelated, on a daily basis; work in closed spaces which are not gender segregated; inhabit in permanent, immovable homes made of hard materials; their food (which they never hunted or scavenged) comes from all over the world, is often prepared with spices and yeasts, rather than straight, eaten well cooked; their water comes from taps and bottles; and often share that dwelling with animals they invited in and feed and take care of. None of that is natural so why would we suppose that the social practices arising in this environment would be natural? Why would we even use "this is natural" as an argument to support a practice among a people who are living in a setting which is anything but natural?

Are you a nomad? Do you only interact with 100 people, all of them loosely related, save maybe for stolen or exchanged wives? Do you eat a Paleolithic diet? Then how come you argue something to be not natural?


(This, of course, does not address a possible Naturalistic Fallacy, as it only shows the factual limitations of arguing it, not the logical ones)



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