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And ... backfire
Posted by Dante on 2012-July-16 19:08:34 EDT, Monday
In reply to Benefits posted by Dante on 2012-July-16 18:00:33 EDT, Monday
I wouldn't wish to go back to cultures or times which presumed that one gender or the other was the sole possessor of sexual desire; usually that women were chaste asexual creatures ( until they'd been defiled ) and that men were slaves to lust and temptation.
However, our sexualities do differ, both in how our bodies work and how our minds think. The notion that they don't ( or shouldn't ) has lead to a lot of misery in turning Heterosex into the search for that rare creature; the simultaneous orgasm. This is the ultimate extension of the idea that sexual gratification MUST be parallel in order not to be exploitive. And yet, it happens rarely, and is difficult to achieve outside of Tantric sex. ( And, as one wag put it, life is too short for Tantric sex. )
Of course this sort of thinking is also the result of the idea that the only way to treat everyone fairly is to presume that they're all the same. ( Which too often only results in the power elites treating women as men-in-drag, and ethnic minorities as if they were all aspiring to be white. )
Dante
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- My take on this - lee lette on 2012-July-17 08:54:11 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 70)
- Re: My take on this - Dante on 2012-July-17 19:18:17 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Re: My take on this - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-17 15:05:04 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Re: My take on this - Baldur on 2012-July-17 09:08:15 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 67)
- Re: My take on this - lee lette on 2012-July-17 10:02:20 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 66)
- Re: My take on this - Dante on 2012-July-17 18:33:14 EDT, Tuesday - (2 / 0 / 65)
- Re: My take on this - lee lette on 2012-July-17 20:29:02 EDT, Tuesday - (2 / 0 / 64)
- Exceptionalism - Dante on 2012-July-17 23:00:57 EDT, Tuesday - (2 / 0 / 63)
- For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-18 10:51:46 EDT, Wednesday - (2 / 0 / 62)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - Dissident on 2012-July-19 05:16:01 EDT, Thursday - (3 / 0 / 12)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-20 00:14:22 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 5)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - Dissident on 2012-July-19 17:23:33 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 4)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-20 11:35:20 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-19 17:27:05 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - Dissident on 2012-July-19 17:23:33 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 4)
- Re: For dissisent if I may! - rocinante on 2012-July-19 15:42:43 EDT, Thursday - (3 / 0 / 5)
- 'Dissisent' responds :-) - Dissident on 2012-July-19 18:25:49 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- 'Recruiting' = 'Grooming' - Dante on 2012-July-19 18:20:31 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: 'Recruiting' = 'Grooming' - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-20 01:30:52 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- what? - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-19 16:51:44 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: not a monster - rocinante on 2012-July-19 17:11:01 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-20 00:14:22 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 5)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - Dante on 2012-July-18 22:11:17 EDT, Wednesday - (2 / 0 / 5)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-20 00:32:25 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 4)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-19 16:14:30 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 3)
- I can't argue since I'm no philosopher. - nt - lee lette on 2012-July-20 11:38:21 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- Re: I can't argue since I'm no philosopher. - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-20 19:23:16 EDT, Friday - (3 / 0 / 1)
- Re: I can't argue since I'm no philosopher. - lee lette on 2012-July-21 10:06:58 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Re: I can't argue since I'm no philosopher. - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-20 19:23:16 EDT, Friday - (3 / 0 / 1)
- I can't argue since I'm no philosopher. - nt - lee lette on 2012-July-20 11:38:21 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-19 16:14:30 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 3)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-20 00:32:25 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 4)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-18 19:49:42 EDT, Wednesday - (2 / 0 / 42)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-20 00:54:16 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 40)
- I am Abraham's Naughty Boy - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-19 17:22:28 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- No atheists in trenches? Bullshit. - griffith on 2012-July-19 14:06:10 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 38)
- Re: No atheists in trenches? Bullshit. - lee lette on 2012-July-20 11:50:00 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: No atheists in trenches? Bullshit. - Dissident on 2012-July-20 21:46:49 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Re: No atheists in trenches? Bullshit. - Dissident on 2012-July-19 17:45:37 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 26)
- Observer Effect - Dante on 2012-July-19 18:41:23 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 22)
- Straw Man Effect - Dissident on 2012-July-20 06:16:12 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 21)
- 3 Quantum researchers ( not ) vs 1 ( real ) - Dante on 2012-July-20 11:06:04 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 20)
- Excellent post--NT - Markaba on 2012-July-20 21:51:48 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- You think that... - Dissident on 2012-July-20 22:43:08 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: You think that... - Markaba on 2012-July-21 04:19:11 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- You think that... - Dissident on 2012-July-20 22:43:08 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- The interconnectedness of all research - Dissident on 2012-July-20 21:24:44 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 10)
- Re: The interconnectedness of all research - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-21 08:49:08 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: The interconnectedness of all research - hieronymus on 2012-July-24 01:43:00 EDT, Tuesday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Keeping it shorter and sweeter. - Dante on 2012-July-21 08:34:41 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: Keeping it shorter and sweeter. - Markaba on 2012-July-21 09:04:49 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Re: The interconnectedness of all research - Markaba on 2012-July-20 22:10:43 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 5)
- Yes, but are there any poeple here? NT - griffith on 2012-July-21 11:20:56 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 3)
- We are all Poeps - Lil'Grundoon on 2012-July-21 21:20:47 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- Hail Eris! -nt- - Baldy on 2012-July-23 00:06:18 EDT, Monday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Like--NT - Markaba on 2012-July-23 23:58:24 EDT, Monday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Hail Eris! -nt- - Baldy on 2012-July-23 00:06:18 EDT, Monday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- We are all Poeps - Lil'Grundoon on 2012-July-21 21:20:47 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- Re: The interconnectedness of all research - Dissident on 2012-July-20 22:29:57 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Yes, but are there any poeple here? NT - griffith on 2012-July-21 11:20:56 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 3)
- Re: The interconnectedness of all research - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-21 08:49:08 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- ...enter into a bar. (nt) - Sexiest GLer of All Time on 2012-July-20 19:27:01 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 3)
- Re: ...enter into a bar. - Lil'Grundoon on 2012-July-21 07:42:45 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- A Higgs boson walks into a church . . . - Markaba on 2012-July-21 09:12:59 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- LOLs. God-Particle, indeed :) NT - Dante on 2012-July-21 09:18:01 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- A Higgs boson walks into a church . . . - Markaba on 2012-July-21 09:12:59 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: ...enter into a bar. - Lil'Grundoon on 2012-July-21 07:42:45 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- Re: 3 Quantum researchers ( not ) vs 1 ( real ) - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-20 18:53:22 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: 3 Quantum researchers ( not ) vs 1 ( real ) - Dissident on 2012-July-20 22:21:43 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Excellent post--NT - Markaba on 2012-July-20 21:51:48 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- 3 Quantum researchers ( not ) vs 1 ( real ) - Dante on 2012-July-20 11:06:04 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 20)
- Straw Man Effect - Dissident on 2012-July-20 06:16:12 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 21)
- Re: No atheists in trenches? Bullshit. - griffith on 2012-July-19 18:40:30 EDT, Thursday - (3 / 0 / 2)
- Atheist! - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-20 12:53:19 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- I hope you feel better soon, old friend - Dissident on 2012-July-20 04:54:57 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Observer Effect - Dante on 2012-July-19 18:41:23 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 22)
- Re: No atheists in trenches? Bullshit. - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-19 16:22:31 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 8)
- Re: No atheists in trenches? Bullshit. - Dante on 2012-July-19 18:09:11 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- I was not criticizing you or lee lette -- - griffith on 2012-July-19 16:28:47 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 6)
- Re: I was not criticizing you or lee lette -- - Dissident on 2012-July-19 18:28:57 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 5)
- False analogy - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-20 12:43:03 EDT, Friday - (3 / 0 / 4)
- Re: False analogy - Lil'Grundoon on 2012-July-20 09:03:06 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: False analogy - Sexiest GLer of All Time on 2012-July-20 18:44:43 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Re: False analogy - Dissident on 2012-July-20 06:25:40 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: False analogy - Dante on 2012-July-20 08:59:37 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Re: False analogy - Lil'Grundoon on 2012-July-20 09:03:06 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- False analogy - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-20 12:43:03 EDT, Friday - (3 / 0 / 4)
- Re: I was not criticizing you or lee lette -- - Dissident on 2012-July-19 18:28:57 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 5)
- Re: No atheists in trenches? Bullshit. - lee lette on 2012-July-20 11:50:00 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Hi, qtns-nt - Dissident on 2012-July-19 05:18:58 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-20 00:54:16 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 40)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - Dissident on 2012-July-19 05:16:01 EDT, Thursday - (3 / 0 / 12)
- For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-18 10:51:46 EDT, Wednesday - (2 / 0 / 62)
- Exceptionalism - Dante on 2012-July-17 23:00:57 EDT, Tuesday - (2 / 0 / 63)
- Re: My take on this - lee lette on 2012-July-17 20:29:02 EDT, Tuesday - (2 / 0 / 64)
- Re: My take on this - Dante on 2012-July-17 18:33:14 EDT, Tuesday - (2 / 0 / 65)
- Re: My take on this - lee lette on 2012-July-17 10:02:20 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 66)