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My take on this
Posted by lee lette on 2012-July-17 08:54:11 EDT, Tuesday
In reply to And ... backfire posted by Dante on 2012-July-16 19:08:34 EDT, Monday
Another book I have recently read was, Understanding And Addressing Adult Sexual Attraction To Children by Sarah Goode. I believe much of the material for this book came from information given by members of this forum a few years ago - comments anyone? Anyway, I seem to be very much in agreement with her views regarding adult/child sexual relationships in that to quote, "I suggest that the harm caused by adult sexual contact with children is fundamentally related to psychological intrusion and the violation of intimacy." I think almost everything she says in pages 170-182 dealing with this issue I agree with as well and would quote some if I am allowed? That is one thing that I have always thought, that our sexual interest is so intrusive into their lives, and is probably the main reason why I have determined not to act on any desires I might have.
I am not sure if Ms Goode is an expert on sexual theory, I certainly am not, but my perspective on children below puberty is basically that what many paedophiles appear to want is incongruous with the child's normal life and that such interactions tend to cause more problems in life than anything else. I have every sympathy for those advocating closer bonds between adults and children and between children but I think a line is crossed when sexual interactions are involved. Many incestuous relationships probably develop because this line is crossed and normal affection and love turns into sexual interactions. Perhaps this is initiated by either party but since the adult is the one possibly responsible for the child's welfare then it is up to them to control such situations and to prevent them developing in the first place. The fact that children can and often do enjoy the physical sensations of their sexual experiences is no justification at all since there are many other things to consider.
This issue of whether sexuality should be normal and encouraged in children does appear to be the main battle ground for paedophilia - one that I see them as losing but perhaps I am wrong. To my eyes, and perhaps for the majority of people, I do not see pre-pubertal children with this perspective and that probably early sexual experiences do cause many of the problems exhibited by young children rather than enhancing their lives.
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- Re: My take on this - Dante on 2012-July-17 19:18:17 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Re: My take on this - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-17 15:05:04 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Re: My take on this - Baldur on 2012-July-17 09:08:15 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 67)
- Re: My take on this - lee lette on 2012-July-17 10:02:20 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 66)
- Re: My take on this - Dante on 2012-July-17 18:33:14 EDT, Tuesday - (2 / 0 / 65)
- Re: My take on this - lee lette on 2012-July-17 20:29:02 EDT, Tuesday - (2 / 0 / 64)
- Exceptionalism - Dante on 2012-July-17 23:00:57 EDT, Tuesday - (2 / 0 / 63)
- For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-18 10:51:46 EDT, Wednesday - (2 / 0 / 62)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - Dissident on 2012-July-19 05:16:01 EDT, Thursday - (3 / 0 / 12)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-20 00:14:22 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 5)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - Dissident on 2012-July-19 17:23:33 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 4)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-20 11:35:20 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-19 17:27:05 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - Dissident on 2012-July-19 17:23:33 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 4)
- Re: For dissisent if I may! - rocinante on 2012-July-19 15:42:43 EDT, Thursday - (3 / 0 / 5)
- 'Dissisent' responds :-) - Dissident on 2012-July-19 18:25:49 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- 'Recruiting' = 'Grooming' - Dante on 2012-July-19 18:20:31 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: 'Recruiting' = 'Grooming' - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-20 01:30:52 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- what? - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-19 16:51:44 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: not a monster - rocinante on 2012-July-19 17:11:01 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-20 00:14:22 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 5)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - Dante on 2012-July-18 22:11:17 EDT, Wednesday - (2 / 0 / 5)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-20 00:32:25 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 4)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-19 16:14:30 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 3)
- I can't argue since I'm no philosopher. - nt - lee lette on 2012-July-20 11:38:21 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- Re: I can't argue since I'm no philosopher. - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-20 19:23:16 EDT, Friday - (3 / 0 / 1)
- Re: I can't argue since I'm no philosopher. - lee lette on 2012-July-21 10:06:58 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Re: I can't argue since I'm no philosopher. - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-20 19:23:16 EDT, Friday - (3 / 0 / 1)
- I can't argue since I'm no philosopher. - nt - lee lette on 2012-July-20 11:38:21 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-19 16:14:30 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 3)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-20 00:32:25 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 4)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-18 19:49:42 EDT, Wednesday - (2 / 0 / 42)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-20 00:54:16 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 40)
- I am Abraham's Naughty Boy - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-19 17:22:28 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- No atheists in trenches? Bullshit. - griffith on 2012-July-19 14:06:10 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 38)
- Re: No atheists in trenches? Bullshit. - lee lette on 2012-July-20 11:50:00 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: No atheists in trenches? Bullshit. - Dissident on 2012-July-20 21:46:49 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Re: No atheists in trenches? Bullshit. - Dissident on 2012-July-19 17:45:37 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 26)
- Observer Effect - Dante on 2012-July-19 18:41:23 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 22)
- Straw Man Effect - Dissident on 2012-July-20 06:16:12 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 21)
- 3 Quantum researchers ( not ) vs 1 ( real ) - Dante on 2012-July-20 11:06:04 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 20)
- Excellent post--NT - Markaba on 2012-July-20 21:51:48 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- You think that... - Dissident on 2012-July-20 22:43:08 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: You think that... - Markaba on 2012-July-21 04:19:11 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- You think that... - Dissident on 2012-July-20 22:43:08 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- The interconnectedness of all research - Dissident on 2012-July-20 21:24:44 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 10)
- Re: The interconnectedness of all research - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-21 08:49:08 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: The interconnectedness of all research - hieronymus on 2012-July-24 01:43:00 EDT, Tuesday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Keeping it shorter and sweeter. - Dante on 2012-July-21 08:34:41 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: Keeping it shorter and sweeter. - Markaba on 2012-July-21 09:04:49 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Re: The interconnectedness of all research - Markaba on 2012-July-20 22:10:43 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 5)
- Yes, but are there any poeple here? NT - griffith on 2012-July-21 11:20:56 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 3)
- We are all Poeps - Lil'Grundoon on 2012-July-21 21:20:47 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- Hail Eris! -nt- - Baldy on 2012-July-23 00:06:18 EDT, Monday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Like--NT - Markaba on 2012-July-23 23:58:24 EDT, Monday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Hail Eris! -nt- - Baldy on 2012-July-23 00:06:18 EDT, Monday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- We are all Poeps - Lil'Grundoon on 2012-July-21 21:20:47 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- Re: The interconnectedness of all research - Dissident on 2012-July-20 22:29:57 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Yes, but are there any poeple here? NT - griffith on 2012-July-21 11:20:56 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 3)
- Re: The interconnectedness of all research - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-21 08:49:08 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- ...enter into a bar. (nt) - Sexiest GLer of All Time on 2012-July-20 19:27:01 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 3)
- Re: ...enter into a bar. - Lil'Grundoon on 2012-July-21 07:42:45 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- A Higgs boson walks into a church . . . - Markaba on 2012-July-21 09:12:59 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- LOLs. God-Particle, indeed :) NT - Dante on 2012-July-21 09:18:01 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- A Higgs boson walks into a church . . . - Markaba on 2012-July-21 09:12:59 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: ...enter into a bar. - Lil'Grundoon on 2012-July-21 07:42:45 EDT, Saturday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- Re: 3 Quantum researchers ( not ) vs 1 ( real ) - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-20 18:53:22 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: 3 Quantum researchers ( not ) vs 1 ( real ) - Dissident on 2012-July-20 22:21:43 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Excellent post--NT - Markaba on 2012-July-20 21:51:48 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 2)
- 3 Quantum researchers ( not ) vs 1 ( real ) - Dante on 2012-July-20 11:06:04 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 20)
- Straw Man Effect - Dissident on 2012-July-20 06:16:12 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 21)
- Re: No atheists in trenches? Bullshit. - griffith on 2012-July-19 18:40:30 EDT, Thursday - (3 / 0 / 2)
- Atheist! - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-20 12:53:19 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- I hope you feel better soon, old friend - Dissident on 2012-July-20 04:54:57 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Observer Effect - Dante on 2012-July-19 18:41:23 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 22)
- Re: No atheists in trenches? Bullshit. - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-19 16:22:31 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 8)
- Re: No atheists in trenches? Bullshit. - Dante on 2012-July-19 18:09:11 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- I was not criticizing you or lee lette -- - griffith on 2012-July-19 16:28:47 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 6)
- Re: I was not criticizing you or lee lette -- - Dissident on 2012-July-19 18:28:57 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 5)
- False analogy - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-20 12:43:03 EDT, Friday - (3 / 0 / 4)
- Re: False analogy - Lil'Grundoon on 2012-July-20 09:03:06 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: False analogy - Sexiest GLer of All Time on 2012-July-20 18:44:43 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Re: False analogy - Dissident on 2012-July-20 06:25:40 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: False analogy - Dante on 2012-July-20 08:59:37 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Re: False analogy - Lil'Grundoon on 2012-July-20 09:03:06 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- False analogy - qtns2di4 on 2012-July-20 12:43:03 EDT, Friday - (3 / 0 / 4)
- Re: I was not criticizing you or lee lette -- - Dissident on 2012-July-19 18:28:57 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 5)
- Re: No atheists in trenches? Bullshit. - lee lette on 2012-July-20 11:50:00 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Hi, qtns-nt - Dissident on 2012-July-19 05:18:58 EDT, Thursday - (2 / 0 / 0)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-20 00:54:16 EDT, Friday - (2 / 0 / 40)
- Re: For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - Dissident on 2012-July-19 05:16:01 EDT, Thursday - (3 / 0 / 12)
- For dante, qtns2di4 and Baldur - lee lette on 2012-July-18 10:51:46 EDT, Wednesday - (2 / 0 / 62)
- Exceptionalism - Dante on 2012-July-17 23:00:57 EDT, Tuesday - (2 / 0 / 63)
- Re: My take on this - lee lette on 2012-July-17 20:29:02 EDT, Tuesday - (2 / 0 / 64)
- Re: My take on this - Dante on 2012-July-17 18:33:14 EDT, Tuesday - (2 / 0 / 65)
- Re: My take on this - lee lette on 2012-July-17 10:02:20 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 66)